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Day2 High Risk Posted: Second Time in History
The SPC is highlighting the potential impact of tomorrow’s storms with a HIGH risk outlook. The only time they’ve done this before (according to Wikipedia) is Apr 6, 2007. On Apr 7, tornadoes raked the mid-south, particularly the north suburbs of Nashville, killing 13.
Interestingly, there were no EF-4 or EF-5 tornadoes in the 3-day outbreak from Apr 6–8, and only 7 EF-2 and EF-3’s. Dynamics for tomorrow are a completely different picture.
Interesting to me as I read the various discussions is the prevalence of “the computers are having problems making this as bad an event as the people believe it will be” in the forecast thinking. Examples:
MANY OF THE MODELS DO NOT DEVELOP NUMEROUS THUNDERSTORMS ALONG THE DRYLINE.IN SPITE OF THIS...THE MODELS DIMINISH THE CAP ACROSS THE SRN AND CNTRL PLAINSLATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON SO THIS BRINGS THE MODELS INTO QUESTION.((SPC Day2 DISCUSSION))
BOTH THE NAM AND GFS ARE HAVING SOME TROUBLE DEVELOPING WIDESPREAD CONVECTIONALONG THIS BOUNDARY UNTIL MID LEVEL LIFT INCREASES TOWARDS 00Z/SAT...WITH COVERAGE EXPECTED TO BE MORE SCATTERED IN NATURE UNTIL THEN.((ICT Forecast Discussion))
It almost seems like WFO ICT is driving the bus on this one…not that it’s a bad thing.
FORECAST SOUNDING FOR KICT AT 03Z/SAT LOOKS LIKE THE PROVERBIAL "LOADED GUN"...WITH SUPERCELLS AND A FEW STRONG TORNADOES LOOKING VERY LIKELY SAT EVENINGFROM KSLN TO KICT.((ICT Forecast Discussion))
AFTER COLLABORATION WITH WFOS WICHITA...NORMAN...TOPEKA...TULSAAND DODGE CITY...A HIGH RISK WILL BE ISSUED DUE TO THE POTENTIALFOR A HIGH-END LIFE THREATENING EVENT ACROSS THE SRN AND CNTRL PLAINS.((SPC DAY2 Discussion))
Maybe “driving the bus” is putting it a bit strongly, and I’m pretty sure my friends at WFO ICT would take exception to that characterization. But the SPC discussion says to me that it would have been a Moderate risk if they were left to their own means and thoughts. But the people locally, in ICT and other regional offices, made a persuasive case that tomorrow really will be one of those “oh, crap” days, despite the models having a problem getting storms started.
Here’s the takeaway:
People with many years’ experience in forecasting severe storms on the Kansas plains have every expectation that tomorrow’s weather setup will lead to life-threatening severe weather. Their experience and skill is being allowed to override the computer models that show slightly less risk.
LISTEN. TO. THEM.
Updated forecasts for tonight and tomorrow, later in the day.
If you don’t have a weather radio, get one. If you don’t have quick access to a shelter UNDERGROUND, get hold of friends who do and make appropriate arrangements.
Thursday: No Chase
A lot of friends out chasing today, and if things had set up a bit differently in relation to distance, time, and expense, I’d be out too. With two days of chasing to follow, I just couldn’t justify it in the end. Time to get some rest and charge up for the weekend!
And then there’s Saturday
I’m not liking the models for Saturday evening right now. At least the NAM. The latest run put surface winds in the Wichita area more from the south than the southeast, and the curve in the hodograph doesn’t start until several thousand feet in the air. That would be more indicative of a hail event than a tornado outbreak. But with two days of storms to affect the models, I’m sure that will change. Not going to put a lot more time into Saturday at the moment.
Let’s Look at Friday
Much of Friday’s forecast is conditional IMO. Meaning, it depends in big measure on how things play out today.
This parameter (CAPE) looks much nicer, in terms of storm (tornado) production potential. CAPE values of 3000–3500 are worth paying attention to.
I also like the kink in the back side of the CAPE, there around Medicine Lodge. The positioning of that in relation to the stronger area of CAPE just outside Wichita is a pattern that tells me an increased severe storm risk is likely.
A closer look…this time at a forecast hodograph for the same time period (7pm CDT Friday) just southwest of Wichita. The hook in the line is what’s important here….it means wind directions turn sharply in the lower atmosphere as you get higher off the ground. They also increase in speed.
EHI Values are above 5 in the same area, another indication that both energy and spin will be present in the atmosphere.
The peak values actually start in the OKC area about 4pm and move north. So there is definitely reason to be weather-aware if you’re in the I-35 corridor tomorrow. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a moderate risk posted by SPC tomorrow. I don’t think, with the unknown quantity of today’s effect on things, that an upgrade to moderate for tomorrow is in the cards on the Day2 outlook issued later today.
We’ll see in the morning how things from tonight have affected the evolution of tomorrow’s weather.
Today’s Chase
I’m of a strongly mixed opinion about today’s chase possibilities. If I were like some of my friends who are already sitting in Western KS, it would be a no-brainer. But with a 3 hour drive each way and models not quite as impressive as they were 24 hours ago, I’m getting gun-shy. The further west it is the less likely I am to want to pull the trigger. Things look so much better closer to home tomorrow and (especially) Saturday.
As an example, in this graphic, the Kansas areas are all green and tan shading. I’d be much more excited about yellows, oranges and higher value.
To get those values, I’d need to be in the Texas panhandle – Canadian, Pampa, that vicinity. Just too far to drive today.
Same parameter, different model:
A better feel for the western Kansas target, but the best values are in the Shamrock, TX area.
Both these graphics are forecasts of tornado risk as of 7pm CDT this evening.
My initial thoughts early this morning were to go to Greensburg or Dodge City and re-evaluate from there. But with budget constraints dictating I only spend one tank of fuel, the shift west in the risk area has me re-evaluating.
It’ll be interesting to see what the decision is when Matt and I get together and look at things in a couple of hours. I’ll post an update when we decide.
Saturday Heads-Up
A large swath of t
he plains, including the Wichita area, is under the gun on Saturday. It’ll likely be the third consecutive day of severe weather in the state, including a risk for tornadoes. But Saturday is shaping up to potentially be the worst in terms of impact. SPC this morning issued a Moderate Risk area for Saturday near the I-35 corridor and it is headlining their website this morning.
I’ll post a more detailed look at things later this morning – planning to chase western Kansas tonight – but wanted to let you who follow the blog know, in case you hadn’t heard the nearly week-long ramp-up to Saturday’s event, that the likelihood of damaging tornadoes and hail is now forecast at 45% in the purple area.
From the text discussion: “ …POTENTIAL FOR LONG-TRACKED…STRONG TORNADOES OCCURRING FROM THE AFTERNOON THROUGH THE EVENING /INCLUDING AFTER DARK/.”
This is important. Be prepared.
Today’s hail

Thursday Chase is On
After looking at the most recent runs of the models that update hourly, I’m thinking Matt & I will be stomping much of the same ground tonight that Kevin, Roxan and I did last night.
This model image (HRRR 14z) is showing a peak in the hail parameters in northern Morris/Southern Geary counties about 7pm. I like, too, that there looks to be some other peaks along the line (in the hopes it will draw some chasers out of the area I’m targeting <g>).

That forecast graphic is consistent with others based on the RUC model. It differs a bit from the WRF model, but not so much I have any difficulty in making this my target.
Will Wichita get hail tonight? I think so. I am less sure it will meet severe criteria. I don’t feel it will happen before dark…earlier I’d felt it might happen during afternoon rush, but I hadn’t looked at things in any detail.
Wednesday Target Verificaiton
Here’s the forecast area I set yesterday morning:
Locations we saw severe weather:
Tornadoes were reported outside my target circle, in Osage and Greenwood counties. The largest hail of the day, so far as I know, was in Greenwood county near Madison. I consider my target area verified, as I did see severe weather within the circle, even if it was not the most severe weather of the day.
Thursday Chase: Pending
At this point, I’m looking to a close-in chase if we do one today. I’m just not prepared to make a run to Kansas City, Nebraska or Iowa on a low chance of tornadoes. Especially when damaging hail is a good possibility in my back yard. The downside to what I’m seeing is timing. The indices for severe weather start to ramp up in the 4pm time frame…right now that’s the outer edge of the models I use on the day of the storm. SO… it’s back to bed for some rest, and a more careful evaluation mid-morning to early afternoon. With it being a close chase, I don’t have to make a firm decision until mid-afternoon. That said, I’m liking the area between US 50 and US 400 within an hour of Wichita, as a target area.
